. >> steve: absolutely. meanwhile, four years ago you invited john mccain and barak obama to sit down with you. you had a lovely forum. this time we didn't do it. >> i felt there was too much emphasis on the negative. rather than either team promoting a solid vision, they were more just saying the other guy is a jerk. and i thought that's not civil and the whole purpose was to promote civility. i didn't think it was appropriate. >> steve: do you think you'll try it again in four years? >> i might. but i decided to do a national congress on religious liberty because these are being slowly eroded away. so in april, we're gog do a national congress on that instead. >> steve: all right. if people want to follow you on twitter, what's your hash tag. >> at rick warren. if you're not following me on twitter, you're going to hell. [ laughter ] >> steve: that's pretty definitive. ten years old, 60 million people read your book. thank you very much. >> thanks. good to see you. >> steve: next up, is it normal for your husband or boyfriend to still talk to his ex? keith ablow is on the case next.